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Rubus hybrids: Grow in a good, fertile, well drained soil that has had plenty of compost incorporated. A cool root run is appreciated and some shade is tolerated. Space plants 2m(7ft)apart. The best fruit is produced on one year canes  so annual replacement of all old wood by new in usually considered to be the best  management.

Pest & Disease: Birds   are the main problem.   - netting or another form of protection essential  .  It is also important to keep the plants weed free.

Harvesting: Pick fruit regularly   - use as soon as soon as possible after picking .Good for jams, pies, jellies,ice cream and juices

Varieties: Buckingham Tayberry; Thornless Loganberry LY654